80 G9 250gb?

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80 G9 250gb?

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So are these gonna be the last ones to hit the store? Im extremely anxious to get my hands on this. Are we planning on the end of october?
I find it a little disappointing that theres a lack of desire for these things in the general public. Archos should be much more well known for being responsible for the only HDD tablet! (whether you think HDD is bad or not)

Side note, I'm going to attempt to upgrade the HDD on this thing to 320gb once I get it. It seems entirely possible.
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No it no seems entirely possible because Archos made a special contract with Seagate so the second to provide Momentus 2.5 HDDs with some differencies from the classics one.
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I do wonder if they're using a derivative of the momentus , or the momentus xt. If it's the latter, then odds of it being user replaceable will go down dramatically. The XT is a hybrid drive in itself and uses some rather exotic firmware to make use of the built in 4Gig SSD.
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Yes, it seems the HDD is a hybrid with flash. very interesting.

btw. the release date for the 250 GB model in Germany is ~11.october....

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/Off ... rchos.html
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Hajile_Ibushi wrote:I do wonder if they're using a derivative of the momentus , or the momentus xt. If it's the latter, then odds of it being user replaceable will go down dramatically. The XT is a hybrid drive in itself and uses some rather exotic firmware to make use of the built in 4Gig SSD.
Its exactly what you said.
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I thought the drive was confirmed to be a seagate momentus thin? I knew that there was 4gb of flash memory somewhere on the device to store the OS because android doesn't recognize HDD's. I assumed that it would be separate from the HDD.
However, if the flash is part of the HDD then that changes everything...

Seagate's press release it says that Archos G9 will be using the thin drives

http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?v ... 48090aRCRD

Do you think it will be available along side the German release? or after?
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bmar29 wrote:So are these gonna be the last ones to hit the store? Im extremely anxious to get my hands on this. Are we planning on the end of october?
I find it a little disappointing that theres a lack of desire for these things in the general public. Archos should be much more well known for being responsible for the only HDD tablet! (whether you think HDD is bad or not)

Side note, I'm going to attempt to upgrade the HDD on this thing to 320gb once I get it. It seems entirely possible.
OH COME you gotta think big.......dude
while you still only thinking about 320GB im already wait for stage 2 the 1TB slim 2.5 upgrade to it
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Nice!
I've actually spoken with people who have upgraded the drives in their gen8 70's. That was how I got the idea.
I assumed that they are using the same type of HDD-SSD setup in the Gen9's just using a different HDD?
But seeing as the highest momentus thin drive available is 320 thats what i'll go with considering I'm not sure when the momentus thin drives will surpass that.
Just to be clear, you installed a TB on an archos 70? What hard drives did the 70's use?
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bmar29 wrote:Nice!
I've actually spoken with people who have upgraded the drives in their gen8 70's. That was how I got the idea.
I assumed that they are using the same type of HDD-SSD setup in the Gen9's just using a different HDD?
But seeing as the highest momentus thin drive available is 320 thats what i'll go with considering I'm not sure when the momentus thin drives will surpass that.
Just to be clear, you installed a TB on an archos 70? What hard drives did the 70's use?
i have pre order a Toshiba utra thin 1TB drive from a Hong kong dealer BTW im from HK
now i have install a 750GB on my A70
the normal A70 use a seagate momentus thin 250GB but you dont have to use same seagate you can use other... think out side of the box
and if you thinking about SSD i would suggest just go buy a i pad ^+^
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starcraft2010 wrote:
bmar29 wrote:Nice!
I've actually spoken with people who have upgraded the drives in their gen8 70's. That was how I got the idea.
I assumed that they are using the same type of HDD-SSD setup in the Gen9's just using a different HDD?
But seeing as the highest momentus thin drive available is 320 thats what i'll go with considering I'm not sure when the momentus thin drives will surpass that.
Just to be clear, you installed a TB on an archos 70? What hard drives did the 70's use?
i have pre order a Toshiba utra thin 1TB drive from a Hong kong dealer BTW im from HK
now i have install a 750GB on my A70
the normal A70 use a seagate momentus thin 250GB but you dont have to use same seagate you can use other... think out side of the box
and if you thinking about SSD i would suggest just go buy a i pad ^+^
No I am not thinking about an SSD. Like I said before, Android does not support HDD's. So what archos did was include a 4gb SSD IN ADDITION TO the 250gb HDD. The OS and all importent Android things are stored on the SSD. What some people were saying earlier in the thread is that perhaps Archos is using an HDD/SSD hybrid. I don't believe this to be the case seeing as its a Momentus Thin...

So youre saying that youre going to replace the 250gb Momentus Thin with a 1TB Toshiba ultra thin? You think that will work? Just out of curiousity, what HDD did you use for your 70? I'm just worried about another HDD not fitting in the casing.
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I read several weeks ago that it is definately a hybrid drive - ruling out any thoughts of upgrading the HDD
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bmar29 wrote:
starcraft2010 wrote:
bmar29 wrote:Nice!
I've actually spoken with people who have upgraded the drives in their gen8 70's. That was how I got the idea.
I assumed that they are using the same type of HDD-SSD setup in the Gen9's just using a different HDD?
But seeing as the highest momentus thin drive available is 320 thats what i'll go with considering I'm not sure when the momentus thin drives will surpass that.
Just to be clear, you installed a TB on an archos 70? What hard drives did the 70's use?
i have pre order a Toshiba utra thin 1TB drive from a Hong kong dealer BTW im from HK
now i have install a 750GB on my A70
the normal A70 use a seagate momentus thin 250GB but you dont have to use same seagate you can use other... think out side of the box
and if you thinking about SSD i would suggest just go buy a i pad ^+^
No I am not thinking about an SSD. Like I said before, Android does not support HDD's. So what archos did was include a 4gb SSD IN ADDITION TO the 250gb HDD. The OS and all importent Android things are stored on the SSD. What some people were saying earlier in the thread is that perhaps Archos is using an HDD/SSD hybrid. I don't believe this to be the case seeing as its a Momentus Thin...

So youre saying that youre going to replace the 250gb Momentus Thin with a 1TB Toshiba ultra thin? You think that will work? Just out of curiousity, what HDD did you use for your 70? I'm just worried about another HDD not fitting in the casing.
yes The 1TB toshiba ultra thin will work for sure if it is thin enough my 750GB works fine
archos did not include a 4GB ssd TO THE 250gb but the A70 have a onboard 2GB memory for use with android
for detail of the HDD i use for my A70 you can just scroll up a little bit and see the photo i post there
i just use a normal size 750GB and put it in and it work great
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straight from Archos.com
Wanting to give users the best of both worlds, ARCHOS paired the Seagate┬« Momentus┬« Thin hard drive with a dedicated 4GB1 flash caching system. This ARCHOS engineered hybrid solution offered on all ARCHOS G9 hard drive tablets is designed to limit spinning and to keep the drive powered down when not in use, which will protect it when on the go as well as preserve battery life. These unique features combined with ARCHOSÔÇÖ changes in Android to allow for hard drives means that your 250GB1 HDD feels like itÔÇÖs an SSD.
I guess you should cancel that preorder
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It's strange how the gen8's had a user replaceable HDD... why couldn't they just keep things the same?
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