Firmware 2.4.19 released - report bugs here

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Re: Firmware 2.4.19 released - report bugs here

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viking wrote:I just experience one quirk that has continued from the previous firmware. At times the web browser jumps into hugely overzoomed mode. I like zoom, but this is like what six hits of the + magnify button might give, (but I didn't hit it). This isn't the real problem but it seems to choke the ram - leading to long pauses and clearing out the launcher upon browser exit. This also happens sometimes when I browse an onboard html file, which I guess uses a different but similar browser app.
Do you happen to be using your unit on power and only using one finger on the screen to scroll, your other hand is not on the case?
I sometimes get ghost touch effects when on power (specifically zooming when I intended to scroll the screen) until I touch the body of the unit with my other hand at the same time as screen input.
It has to do with poor capacitive link when on mains power due to the psu not having any earth pin (high mains noise on supply).

Quite a large amount of perceived bad touch input can be put down to the combination of an insulating case, on psu and on a stand so only one finger is in contact with the units screen.

As the touch input is optimized for hand-held usage, try touching any part of the metal body with a finger from your other hand whilst making screen input, you'll be surprised at the difference..
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Hello Archos users! I am new to the community.

I have a new 43 that I have upgraded to 2.4.19. I would like to summarize my experience and issues.

When the 43 was new, I did a USB-connected firmware upgrade to 2.3.81, installed The Market, and several Apps. All was great for about two weeks, then the 43 would not wake up from Deep Sleep. Sometimes the green light would come on, sometimes it would not, but the screen just stayed black. (A long-power press reset was required.) Hosting to my Cowon D2 would only work if there was an autorun.inf file in the D2 root directory, which would be deleted in the process, so I could only successfully host one time. Sucessive attempts would do NOTHING. When 2.4.19 was released I was hoping that these two problems would be solved, so I upgraded OTA. There was no change in behavior.

I then reformatted from the recovery screen, and reinstalled 2.4.19 from scratch. I reloaded The Market and my Apps, and both Deep Sleep and hosting to the D2 worked flawlessly...for about one day. Then both Deep Sleep and hosting stopped working.

I re-reformatted and rebuilt the system a second time. It has been less than a day, but so far Deep Sleep is working, BUT hosting is not. If I plug in an SD card reader, I get a message that it requires too much power, but if I plug in the D2, NOTHING happens (regardless of whether there is an autorun.inf file or not). I had attempted hosting after the reformat-reinstall steps (BEFORE any Apps were installed) and it did not work - nothing would happen.

These is looking like firmware bugs, but if anyone has any advice, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Does your Cowon D2 device charge over USB that you are trying to connect to Archos? Maybe there's some confusion when device tries to turn on and it is on host cable that doesn't have enough power to do charge it.
Card reader, probably requires more than 100mA that USB can deliver on A43. Did it work before the update?
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The card reader never worked. I can understand that it requires too much current.

The D2 does indeed charge from the 43's USB port, just as if it were plugged into a PC. I could understand if it, too, required too much current, but the 43 does not complain - it does nothing at all. This used to work fine. Also, why does the 43 delete the autorun.inf file on the D2? It is only there to display a custom icon when plugged into a PC, so it is not a big problem, but it is curious. Before the first rebuild, it would delete the file and host properly only once. After that, it would no longer host unless the autorun.inf file were first restored. After the first rebuild, it would delete the file the first time the D2 was hosted, but continue to host successively. Now it does not recognize the D2 at all - even before any Apps are installed!

Firmware or RMA?
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Also, D2 is on before it is plugged into the 43.
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I don't think that you bricked your A43, this must be a software problem.
In this firmware change log I don't see that they've made any changes regarding USB host feature.

I presume that you haven't changed partition type on D2 and that you've checked it's integrity using some PC tool (disc check?). Can you plug in some flash based USB stick, just to see if it would mount it? External HDD that has it's own power supply?

In 2.1.8 firmware they added NTFS support for USB host.
In 2.3.20 they only added notification if USB device requires more than 100mA
Peripherals: display a notification when plugging a USB device that requires more than 100mA current for A28/A32/A70 to provide feedback that it is not supported (e.g. some USB keys)
Since than, at least if we can judge by change log, there were no changes to USB Host feature.
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No changes were made to the D2. I can look into an integrity check. I don't have anything else to try plugging in, but I will see if I can borrow a friend's USB stick.

The D2 charging is an interesting thought. I will charge it tonight and try hosting again fresh off the charge, so it will not attempt to charge from the A43. Still, the A43 should complain if the charging D2 was drawing too much current.
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Did the update on A70 stock launcher seems scrolling from homescreen to homescreen. but app drawer still sluggish
I'll stick with Launcher Pro. Good news though Google Music App now working same music player that is stock
on Honeycomb at least we got a taste. Going to test more and update later.
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I have to report this fw2 4 19.....I can surf the web in less than 60 second....archos must do something right!
A70s. 8g I use adw launcher ......when it finish boot up from homescreen only afew app are ready to launch that include stock browser. I wish another update fw coming soon....hey you never known!
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DRJones wrote:Hello Archos users! I am new to the community.

I have a new 43 that I have upgraded to 2.4.19. I would like to summarize my experience and issues.

When the 43 was new, I did a USB-connected firmware upgrade to 2.3.81, installed The Market, and several Apps. All was great for about two weeks, then the 43 would not wake up from Deep Sleep. Sometimes the green light would come on, sometimes it would not, but the screen just stayed black. (A long-power press reset was required.) Hosting to my Cowon D2 would only work if there was an autorun.inf file in the D2 root directory, which would be deleted in the process, so I could only successfully host one time. Sucessive attempts would do NOTHING. When 2.4.19 was released I was hoping that these two problems would be solved, so I upgraded OTA. There was no change in behavior.

I then reformatted from the recovery screen, and reinstalled 2.4.19 from scratch. I reloaded The Market and my Apps, and both Deep Sleep and hosting to the D2 worked flawlessly...for about one day. Then both Deep Sleep and hosting stopped working.

I re-reformatted and rebuilt the system a second time. It has been less than a day, but so far Deep Sleep is working, BUT hosting is not. If I plug in an SD card reader, I get a message that it requires too much power, but if I plug in the D2, NOTHING happens (regardless of whether there is an autorun.inf file or not). I had attempted hosting after the reformat-reinstall steps (BEFORE any Apps were installed) and it did not work - nothing would happen.

These is looking like firmware bugs, but if anyone has any advice, it would be greatly appreciated.
As far as hosting is concerned, I think that you have the same problem that is discused in depth here:

http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=53299

At the moment it only seems possible to use a USB host cable if your device is rooted. You will see conclusive evidence by jamie41, and an admission to the problem by Archos.
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I upgrade from 2.3.26 to 2.4.19.

The WIFI hang and reboot loop is fixed for sure. Thanks.

But my keyboard is still junk!!!

"u" could activate when I am hitting "a". I could get a "q" when I am pressing "g". I press "r" and get ""e" and "r". I can even press a key without touching the screen. How cool is that!!

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With this update my archos 70 working great ... is much smoother ... allmost perfect ...
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Thank you for your replies, Arnold Layne & Ominous.

I want to report that the A43 hosted my D2 just fine this morning. The D2 was fresh off its charger. This clearly seems to be an issue of current draw, as the D2 would not have been attempting to charge from the A43 in this instance.

This leaves a few questions. Why did the A43 not complain about excess current draw if that was the issue? Why does the A43 delete the autorun.inf file from the D2? I have an SD card installed in the D2 that shows up as a separate drive when it is hosted by a PC, but the SD card does not show up when the D2 is hosted by the A43. Is that because the A43 can only host one device at a time?

Hopefully, Archos can address some of these issues in a future firmware release. At least I have a work-around for the moment, although it is inconvenient.

BTW - Deep Sleep is still working as of the writing of this post. I am cautiously optimistic. I will report back if anything changes.
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Ominous wrote:Mine gave me a scare this morning xD.
last night I've left it at ~11% battery charge.
Over night a got as usual a bunch of tweets, nothing special there BUUUUUUT :)

I short-click power button, no wake. hmm
Maybe I pushed volume, turned it to take a better look. Click. nothing. strange....
Probably battery is all out, plugging DC in. Click, blink blink goes the green light... no power up.
Long press power (~10s), Green is solid. Black screen. Short power, no wake. but green light is blinking 2x short blink, pause, 2x short blink...
Not a thing on the screen.

Then I repeat long press, solid green light is back. Then I've left it like 10 minutes. Short press and there goes the Archos boot screen.

After that charging went as usual, 100% charged. Even now it's at 100% didn't use it all day after that.

Probably battery was dead empty and it wouldn't boot up until some charge was in it.
That same thing happened to me last night. It had ~30% battery left and when I woke up it was dead which doesn't make any sense. My only guess is that it went into a reboot loop which had happened earlier the previous day. At some point it crashed and then it kept rebooting. It would get to the home screen and then immediately reboot. It kept doing that until I did a hard shutdown.
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I never had any reboot loops on my device. No meeter which firmware I had installed.
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Ominous wrote:I never had any reboot loops on my device. No meeter which firmware I had installed.
Neither have I.
The major annoyance for me in the past few firmware updates starting with 2.3.20 has been the power light not want to turn off a good share of the time with a short power button press for deep sleep.
Sometimes I have to reboot to get it working correctly.

The second most annoying thing is the battery meter not showing the correct charge when it is supposedly full charge.
It may say something like 93% when the light starts to blink, then it will go to 100% when I unplug the cable.
The problem is it seems to discharge faster than it should, again according to the meter.
I'm not too sure it is ever accurate, but mostly just relative I think.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if I remember correctly, power indicators for lithium-ion based batteries are more art than science xD joking
To measure battery charge you can't just plug some meter into it and say it's n% full.
They measure battery resistance, speed of discharge, voltage, current. Not all these are linear...
Then there's calibration... Not all batteries are made the same.

So that % is more less descriptive than precise. Process of charging and monitoring discharge are based on it. Ok, I've overreacted calling it art, but there is process is actually complex and prune to errors.

It's a b-word when you get device saying it has 50% and you start using it and in a 5 minutes it alerting you to replace battery pack or find another power source xD

Archos's power indicator is actually not that bad. They are just not that perfect. There are other factors that influence that meter than just how long did you use it or kept it on DC.
For example some process is stuck and eating a lot processor power, maybe you didn't notice it. Maybe Archos's dev team didn't notice it. Remember they didn't approve all apps that we all use from market. They didn't make all those apps. After all, there is no person alive (that I ever heard of) that could predict and correct all problems.

Overall I'm happy with my device, battery time is excellent, usability just what you could expect/buy (maybe more?) for that money in given time. Dev's are working hard and at least trying to help with updates and bug fixes. Sure it's not perfect, but not bad, not bad at all.

pls, don't flame me :) If you don't get joke part don't replay by trowing me out of the balcony xD

Sorry for long post :)
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Farsquidge wrote: As the touch input is optimized for hand-held usage, try touching any part of the metal body with a finger from your other hand whilst making screen input, you'll be surprised at the difference..
Oh, that's interesting. Actually I think I have that problem with another tablet, but I don't use my a70 plugged in and not held.

Besides the slight zoom annoyance, there seems an occasional issue of long pauses. I can just be typing at the keyboard and it may take a very long time for a key to respond - maybe 10 seconds. It may not be a firmware problem, but that some downloaded bloatware upgrade is crowding ram or something. I forgot I can check system monitor app to check ram at these times. I keep system storage at around 75 free.
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Well I just upgraded the FW after hanging on to 2.0.71 for the last while... the temptation of working Skype was too hard to resist! Went ok but I find the stock browser is very jerky scrolling now whereas Opera which I'd given up on now works great .. yet to actually try Skype, will give it a go now.
It works!! A bit of lag but at least it's useable, so a great step forward. Thanks Archos!
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The led is still on sometime, even thought the screen is off and no application is running
Sometime, the led is on, the screen is off, and i cant turn on the screen, so i have to reboot. Worse than the previous firmware
And, i ran the stock music application at night. After a period of time, i heard the noise instead of music, so i have to woke up, and turned it off. Sometime, this happens to me
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