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Archos teams with troubled USA Blockbuster to distribute 10

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Some good news, maybe.

Archos has team with troubled USA DVD rental chain Blockbuster to sell the 10 at select locations.

Gets Archos some presence in the USA shelves, but for how long? Only Blockbuster knows for sure. Somehow, I think associations with failing marketers is not the path to success.

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that's strange. :p But $299 is decent price for sure.
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The thing is, Redbox is grabbing the last few shlubbs not renting online, so Blockbuster is really hurting. They're trying to build an online rental model before going kapput, but waited too long to get started. Netflix has a commanding lead.
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Blockbuster revenues in 2008 is over $5 Billion.

Netflix revenues in 2008 are about $1 Billion.

Redbox revenues in 2008 are about $270 Million.

Blockbuster simply needs to find new ways to monetize their 5000 US brick and mortar locations and there is absolutely no reason Blockbuster can't implement automatic vending machines using USB or actual DVDs like Redbox at each of their locations, and there is no reason Blockbuster can't implement unlimited movie rental plans like Netflix, with that advantage that you don't need to wait for shipping (which is the real trick behind netflix, that you have to spend most of your time waiting for shipping), but that you can simply go down to the Blockbuster store and return the disc and get a new one instantly.

And then, I think it absolutely makes sense for Blockbuster to sell a few consumer electronics items, especially things like Archos products which ABSOLUTELY are the absolute best consumer electronics products in terms of value for money. Giving people another reason to go to the brick and mortar Blockbuster stores.

As long as Blockbuster feels no obligations towards selling exclusively Apple products (like Best Buy might actually do), as long as Blockbuster wants to build an image of THE place you can find really good value consumer electronics, the place for Bluray rentals, the place for video game rentals, with more and more reasonable monthly subscription plans for all you can eat. then no reason Blockbuster can't increase their revenues.
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Once you start to slide, in America, you're finished. GM will go kapput too, despite what you may hear in the newspapers.

Revenue is different, but what matters is that Netflix is gaining and BB is losing ground. And I would hate to be a BB investor looking at a 5 year trailing revenue chart.
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Blockerbuster stock has taken a a hammering though it has recovered a bit from the near-disaster dip in March. The general trend has been decline since 2002.
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Archos5Fan wrote:Blockerbuster stock has taken a a hammering though it has recovered a bit


Same thing can be said about Best Buy
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They have all been hammered to less than half their mid-2008 value and since Obama is president and the enforcement of that stimulus plan around March this year, they have all slightly recovered.
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But those stocks have some sort of value. Blockbuster is trading for less than $1USD and I think reached a low of $0.13USD at one point.
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The price per stock has absolutely no relation to the value of the stock.
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The price point for rented dvd's has been set at $1 by Redbox. There's no way a brick and mortar store can survive on that. There's not enough parking for enough customers to get in the store.

Redbox.com lets you RESERVE the movies you want online, and the machine holds them for you. BB is hit or miss, and you can rarely get a new release.

The people still renting from BB are shrinking in numbers as they discover newer, cheaper, more efficient options. The reason BB is still hanging on is because, like the "cable company", they still have the delusion that they are king of the industry.

Their ego hangs them on their own petard too.
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Brick and mortar is not dead yet. If it was, then the Apple store would be dead and so would Wal Mart and Best Buy.

Blockbuster can implement over Internet reservation of movies just as well as Redbox. Blockbuster can have automatic vending machines just as Redbox, if not much better and more than redbox since Blockbuster already owns the brick and mortar places that they can easily add vending machines to.

Blockbuster can rent and stream movies over the Internet just as any other.

And, if Blockbuster closes some stores, that does not hurt Blockbuster, cause they are just a franchise and it would be the actual people that have setup franchises that would be loosing. Blockbuster just provides the network, the movies, the technology and the brand and products marketing and other such stuff.

Going into retailing such awesome innovative products as Archos products is the EXACT best thing that Blockbuster needs to do. Archos is perfect technology for watching movies, on-the-go, many are on-the-go in public transportation every day, or could enjoy on-the-go movies at work or at school during breaks. Also Archos provides perfect technology to replace the DVD, Blu-ray, both discs and players.
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If Blockbuster stock drops to $0.00USD let's see how much longer they remain around and how much value that stock has.
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BB customers do not know how to use a computer, that's why they still go to BB. So how does selling computers help?
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Not to belabor this, but the debate is stimulating. BB has a lot of resentment built up for the way they poorly serviced their customers (like the cable TV companies) in the past when they were the only option.

They charged outrageous late fees, they didn't stock enough new releases, the employees treated us like an inconvenience, and the rental fees were too high for too long.

Well, it's payback time. Bye-bye Blockbuster.

(AT&T, watch out, you're next, you greedy bastards)
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Apple, Intel and Microsoft (that only have monopolies at selling hot air) are gonna go down well before brick and mortar Blockbuster and infrastructure AT&T.

Infrastructure monopolies, storage and distribution networks, those are real tangible things. While bloated X86 processors, proprietary operating systems and overpriced consumer electronics are absolutely superfluous.

Especially when competition from ARM, Google's free open-source Linux and reasonably priced and configured European Archos consumer electronics are coming into town.
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The decision to sell the Archos 10 is not for the reasons you think.

Archos needs to unload these A10's privately. They can't start showing up on Woot and Amazon for half price. I'm sure BB is getting them for pennies on the dollar. This will give Archos enough cash flow to pay Hasee for the balance of the contract for the A10's they committed to but can't sell.

It's not a momentous earth shaking moment.
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Archos 10 is the cheapest netbook, simply cause that's how Archos builds it.

Working with the best Chinese laptop company directly lowers cost, compared to working with a Taiwanese company that takes a share on each laptop sold. Dell, Samsung, Apple, HP, Medion, they all work with Taiwanese intermediaries.

And the way this netbook is built, is what makes it possible to sell it at upwards more than $50 cheaper than the whole netbook competition.

Same thing for the Archos 10 Ubuntu Edition. Nobody else on the market is able to sell 500GB netbooks with 2GB ram running Ubuntu. Reason Archos can do it is cause the Chinese partner Archos is working with has no obligation towards Microsoft in using Windows XP only while Taiwanese netbook manufacturers are all tied to use Windows only.

Eventually Blockbuster will sell millions of Archos devices priced as something like following:

Archos 10 with $100 Blockbuster.com movie streaming credits: $299

Archos 10S Ubuntu 500GB 2GB RAM: $349 - This will bring millions new geeks into the Blockbuster stores. The place to buy the ultimate geek netbook.

Archos 5 Android 120GB 1cm thin with $100 Blockbuster.com movie rentals credits: $299

Archos 5 Android 500GB with $100 Blockbuster.com movie streaming credits: $399

And eventually, running Chrome OS as soon as Chrome OS is released open-source later this year:

Archos 10 Chrome OS 8GB with $100 Blockbuster.com movie streaming credits: $199

All Android and Chrome OS devices by Archos come with HSDPA built-in and a possibility to purchase pre-paid data plans branded by something like "Blockbuster Network" or through some partnership with a HSDPA carrier. Unlimited data usage on HSDPA could be $30 per month or less. Just simply pre-paid each month in a Blockbuster store or pre-paid online. Streaming of Blockbuster.com movies could be limited to work only on WiFi if HSDPA bandwidth remains too expensive in the USA.

If Blockbuster.com works on Ubuntu, then some free credits to use streaming from that would also be included.

Relevant accessories like:

- USB DVD drive: $29
- 6-cells battery: $19
- Bluetooth accessories for the Android and Chrome OS devices like headset, remote control, mouse, keyboard and more would be available starting $19 each.
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Hahaha, what a pipe dream. AT&T controls HSDPA here in America, it's not a government run charity. AT&T is the death star in your scenario.

AT&T will NEVER do another losing "wholesale package" like the $20 unlimited iPhone deal that was struck right before they took over Cingular.

Those iPhone dummies are "LOL'ing" and "YouTube'ing" up all the bandwidth and they keep eating more with the new apps coming out like XM radio.

AT&T is NOT an infrastructure builder, they are a "squeeze what you can out of what you got" type OPERATOR.

Instead of building more infrastructure, they want $60USD a month with a 5G cap, and they have a take it or leave it attitude.

The rest of America has to suffer for the deal made by that prick Steve Jobs, for his Appleheads.
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No reason Archos can't use HSDPA service from T-Mobile or use a 3G modem for CDMA and use Sprint or Verizon in the USA.

If for $20 pre-paid per month you only get 1GB data limit, well then, you'd have to use it only for basic browsing and emails, and just make sure to get on WiFi hotspots when streaming the DVD or HD quality movies from the Blockbuster.com Android application.

Building Android applications that have to be WiFi-only is pretty normal in the USA, since bandwidth caps on 3G data networks are so limited.

Here in Europe, we get 10GB or 20GB monthly bandwidth limits on 2mbit/s or faster on pre-paid HSDPA data usage plans, so we can easilly stream a few full length DivX movies each month as well if we want. At least we should have no fear of using too much of Youtube's 350kbit/s flash video streaming quality. On a 10GB monthly limit, that amounts to more than 2 hours of Youtube's 350kbit/s streaming each day.

A FON auto-detect application for Android could also automatically use WiFi when FON hotspots are detected, here in Europe there are more than 1 million active FON WiFi hotspots at the moment. And some European ISPs are automatically adding hundreds of thousands of new FON-compatible hotspots regularly by simply remote updating firmwares in all of their customers ADSL and Cable Internet routers.
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