Whats so special about archos 10..

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Archos5Fan wrote:Look here: http://www.archos.com/store/psearch.htm ... d=archos10

Maybe it is already shipping for the UK.

When you receive it let us know what you think.

It appears to available in the USA as well (but not the extended battery pack): https://store.archos.com/


Hey many thanks for link, I shall go check it out very soon.

Ebby I take it you not like the look of archos 10 the greatest net book to ever be released, you must me crazy for sure not to be liking it, perhaps when you see one in the flesh and run your fingers along the smooth silky finish you will change your mind yes?
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I have checked the link and the price they are quoting is very good for such a great product, does anybody know what the exchange rate for the pound against the dollar is?
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Not a very good review for the Archos 10. In French: http://cajl.free.fr/Archos10.png
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I cannot understand the french but even I can see that that website have not got a clue what they are talking about, it looks very childish amature website.
It's such a shame that the archos did not release the 10 last year when the english pound was worth nearly two of the us dollars as $370 would have meant the 10 would have been worth a steal especially with the $40's worth of free films.
I am still not sure if to get the 10, will it play vib files and the archos games does anyway know?
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The review is simply a scan of a paper-based article. It's not a "site" as such.
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Charbax wrote:OLPC was announced in January 2005, beta test models launched by the end 2006, launched in mass production by the end of 2007.

Eee pc was announced out of nowhere at Computex middle of 2007 for $199 and was not released before the end of 2007 at $399.

Eee didn't start a thing, other then perhaps Intel's attempt at controlling the worldwide laptop revolution which OLPC was forcing on the industry.

Perhaps you should look a bit further then gadgets that you can waste your money on in your local crapware store. OLPC is a University project, sold without profit to third world countries. Stop whining if you aren't targeted by OLPC to be the yuppy adult westerner to consume it.


OLPC was not a resounding success, it started things, sure; it has managed to stay afloat so far, sure, but it has been struggling ever since it was released. Asus started everything on the commercial side of things. Regardless of your take, if they didn't release the Eee it's hard to say that the netbook would be as popular as it is today. They released a product, promoted it, and designed it to where everyday consumers would care. Could someone else have done it? Of course, but give some credit where it's due and stop being so biased about everything.
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OLPC XO-1 is in the hands of over 1 million children in third world countries. It could grow to several millions this year. Do you have any idea what that represents? It's over 10 thousand schools in Uruguay, Peru, Mexico, Birmingham, Haiti, Afghanistan, Mongolia, Rwanda, Nepal, Ethiopia, Oceania, Paraguay, Cambodia, Guatemala, Colombia, Brazil, Lebanon, Ghana, South Africa, Thailand, India, Niue, Iraq, each of those countries have up to hundreds of thousands of OLPC XO-1 as of today and each of their politicians trying to find funds to fund millions more. In all from large city schools to thousands and thousands of small schools in villages.

I can assure you that none of those countries have children walking around with Asus Eee computers, even less any Intel powered classmate computer or anything like that.

Intel chose to compete against OLPC instead of working with OLPC, which resulted in an Intel dominated for-profit first world commercial distribution of Intel Netbooks competing against a non-profit University developed, Government sponsored which targets mainly the poor third world countries, which is the whole point of OLPC, to bridge the digital divide.

The only point of Intel so far is to provide a secondary laptop for rich adults in rich countries. That is why Intel and Microsoft carefully limits screen size, RAM, graphics, storage, disk drives and other features on netbooks. It is a careful monopolistic an desperate attempt by Intel to try to keep control on the bulk of the laptop market while the inevitable eventually happens, Intel and Microsoft will loose their monopolistic grip on the market. The business as usual in Silicon Valley is finished. Intel executives could see it coming, but as is their fiduciary obligation, they try to stay in monopolistic control on the laptop market for as long as they could. Even if they can delay the inevitable non-profit laptop using free open source software and hardware revolution, even if Intel can delay that just another couple years. For Intel execs it is worth delaying the reach of technology to poor people that desperately need it in their under developed societies.

I think what Intel has done is criminal, cause billions of children are growing older without a fair society around them, without a fair access to knowledge and forcing them to live in pollution and chaos. Intel and Microsoft execs though live in their fiduciary bubble in the Silicon Valley, and all they have been thinking about is doing everything they could to keep their control on profits and profit margins of the market. Though the market solves nothing other than the rate in which their filthy pocketbooks can expand with more money and power.
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That it, I've just been convinced not to buy an Archos 10.

Or maybe Archos can paticipate in the G1G1 initiative with the 10 (or a specially modified version of it) and help as well.
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What is open source hardware?

And Idiot - even with an exchange rate more favorable to the pound, no guarantee the UK price would be any better. I saw stuff selling there for a numerically higher number of pounds than the price here in dollars.
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Charbax wrote:OLPC XO-1 is in the hands of over 1 million children in third world countries. It could grow to several millions this year. Do you have any idea what that represents? It's over 10 thousand schools in Uruguay, Peru, Mexico, Birmingham, Haiti, Afghanistan, Mongolia, Rwanda, Nepal, Ethiopia, Oceania, Paraguay, Cambodia, Guatemala, Colombia, Brazil, Lebanon, Ghana, South Africa, Thailand, India, Niue, Iraq, each of those countries have up to hundreds of thousands of OLPC XO-1 as of today and each of their politicians trying to find funds to fund millions more. In all from large city schools to thousands and thousands of small schools in villages.

I can assure you that none of those countries have children walking around with Asus Eee computers, even less any Intel powered classmate computer or anything like that.

Intel chose to compete against OLPC instead of working with OLPC, which resulted in an Intel dominated for-profit first world commercial distribution of Intel Netbooks competing against a non-profit University developed, Government sponsored which targets mainly the poor third world countries, which is the whole point of OLPC, to bridge the digital divide.

The only point of Intel so far is to provide a secondary laptop for rich adults in rich countries. That is why Intel and Microsoft carefully limits screen size, RAM, graphics, storage, disk drives and other features on netbooks. It is a careful monopolistic an desperate attempt by Intel to try to keep control on the bulk of the laptop market while the inevitable eventually happens, Intel and Microsoft will loose their monopolistic grip on the market. The business as usual in Silicon Valley is finished. Intel executives could see it coming, but as is their fiduciary obligation, they try to stay in monopolistic control on the laptop market for as long as they could. Even if they can delay the inevitable non-profit laptop using free open source software and hardware revolution, even if Intel can delay that just another couple years. For Intel execs it is worth delaying the reach of technology to poor people that desperately need it in their under developed societies.

I think what Intel has done is criminal, cause billions of children are growing older without a fair society around them, without a fair access to knowledge and forcing them to live in pollution and chaos. Intel and Microsoft execs though live in their fiduciary bubble in the Silicon Valley, and all they have been thinking about is doing everything they could to keep their control on profits and profit margins of the market. Though the market solves nothing other than the rate in which their filthy pocketbooks can expand with more money and power.


A computer is not going to fix the world, sir. Let alone a paltry million or ten million of them. You need to fix the governments (It doesn't need to be any one in particular, simply a fully functioning one) Then you need to fix the infrastructure, and then you can get to the education. Again, a computer isn't going to fix the problem. There is more behind the OLPC than you care to admit and "charity" isn't its main prerogative. It isn't a Saint and neither are the people behind it. Good intentions, sure, but totally misguided.
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We already know how it all ends.

I had a brief use of the Sony Vaio P today. It is incredibly small and despite some criticism of the pointer rather than a track pad I found the pointer and clicking arrangement quite natural to use. Computing response was OK, maybe a bit on the slowish side. The screen resolution was incredible but it might not be for those with uncorrected astigmatism. For inquiring minds it is a TN-based screen -- a huge disappointment. Keyboard was nice with decent tactile feedback. I'd like to see the Archos 10 in the store to get a comparison.

Has anyone seen an Archos 10 yet in brick-and-mortar stores in the USA?
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bmn wrote:A computer is not going to fix the world, sir. Let alone a paltry million or ten million of them.


Computers and the Internet can fix everything. It's pretty much proven that computers have made people in rich countries lives better already. So there is no reason poor people in poor countries shouldn't benefit from the same improvements.

bmn wrote:You need to fix the governments


Those can be fixed by computers and the Internet as well. More openness, more knowledge to the people, more debate means more and better democracy.

bmn wrote:Then you need to fix the infrastructure


Poor countries can learn from us and thus jump directly to free wireless broadband technologies based on the TV Spectrum and directly to free unlimited renewable energy from the sun and the wind. Instead of going through all the crappy intermediaries that rich countries have had for the last 100 years since the industrial age. Poor countries shouldn't use oil in cars, shouldn't build crappy nuclear plants for power and shouldn't have to put all those crappy copper cables in the ground for communications. Also poor countries shouldn't give their precious TV spectrum to any private monopolies, they need to use that for free wireless broadband for all their citizen.

OLPC fixes all problems in one swoop. The solution has computers and the Internet at its core. Then of course it depends how you use those technological tools. I would say that even rich countries have a really hard time using those tools in the best ways yet. But that is just a question of willingness from the Government to make computers and the Internet an integral part of the solution and that is what politicians like Obama and other modern left wing socialist type of parties can do. Embrace the technology to fix all problems.
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Power through education. One is less likely to be able to enslave an educated society. However history does have examples that do show otherwise. We have to be very careful about who or what is doing the "educating".
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I bought an Acer Aspire One 120 GB for 348 dollars and I am happy with it. Although it is true that the battery life is short with the 3 cell one, they now offer the 6 cell battery. I am using it with the firefox 3.0 browser and its fast. It is what I am on and posting into this forum right now.
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To be fair, OLPC and classmate PC is the reason netbook is here today.

ASUS realize the possibility of EEE PC (cheap laptop) when they are doing ODM on classmate PC. I can't remember who made OLPC, but it's ODM in Taiwan as well.

I bet you Archos 10 is either made by ASUS ODM or Foxconn ODM anyway. Therefore, whichever comes with good price gets my vote. :)
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so.. is the archos 10 available yet
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I got mine yesterday. Ordered through Amazon US.

fang_3000 wrote:so.. is the archos 10 available yet
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