Forum.ArchosFans.com

Unofficial Archos Support Forum
It is currently Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:34 pm

All times are UTC+01:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:38 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:40 am
Posts: 7052
Location: Copenhagen
http://source.android.com/

Now's the time I think for Archos engineers to look at that code and figure out how to integrate support for those Java based Android applications.

If any of you have a good idea how Archos could perhaps do it, even though you don't have access to the Archos OS source code, perhaps you could post suggestions here. Which Java virtual machine code should Archos add to the firmware? Can Archos rather easilly make sure that executing those applications stays secure and perhaps even requires authentication through a cryptographically signed database connection that allows the verified applications or verified ported versions of certain aplications only to be installed.


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:24 am 
Offline
Archos User
Archos User

Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:24 pm
Posts: 70
Location: Fairfax, VA
Seems they jumped the gun and released it a day early here.


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:00 am 
Offline
Archos Expert
Archos Expert

Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:13 am
Posts: 232
I highly doubt Archos will ever add support for Android applications.


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:40 am 
Offline
Archos Guru
Archos Guru

Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:37 pm
Posts: 627
Location: Berlin
Charbax wrote:
If any of you have a good idea how Archos could perhaps do it, even though you don't have access to the Archos OS source code, perhaps you could post suggestions here.


As Archos will inevitably integrate Android into their PMPs, as you pointed out, I'm sure they will know better how to do it.

_________________
openAOS


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:06 am 
Offline
Archos Guru
Archos Guru

Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:19 am
Posts: 1745
Charbax wrote:
If any of you have a good idea how Archos could perhaps do it, even though you don't have access to the Archos OS source code, perhaps you could post suggestions here.


Sure I have a suggestion: my contract rate is £3500 per week. I can think of all sorts of approaches, but I would need to be paid for that kind of work :)

Quote:
Which Java virtual machine code should Archos add to the firmware? Can Archos rather easilly make sure that executing those applications stays secure and perhaps even requires authentication through a cryptographically signed database connection that allows the verified applications or verified ported versions of certain aplications only to be installed.


I don't think there is any choice of JVM. It has to be the Google Dalvik thing, that's part of the deal. The only choices left to OEMs, so far as I can see, concern how to integrate the Dalvik I/O and UI classes with the operating environment.

As I've said before, I'm sure that if Archos wanted to put a `real' JVM on their devices (e.g., J2ME Personal Profile), Sun Microsystems would fall over itself in its haste to help out. It wouldn't even be very difficult -- I was able to get the experimental KVM implementation of J2ME PP working (almost) on the PMA400 under Qtopia. The new units don't use Qtopia, but they have at least a rump of Qt/Embedded, so I doubt it would be a massive undertaking.

But Archos don't _want_ to do it. It's not that they _can't_ do it.


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 

All times are UTC+01:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 13 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited