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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:31 pm 
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Archos announced and demonstrated together with Alcatel Lucent and ICO, one of the worlds first solutions for the DVB-SH reception. It'll be available as a Dock and a software plugin within the next few months, in those regions that are going to launch the DVB-SH mobile TV broadcasting standard.

The DVB-SH standard mixes HSDPA-like cell phone towers that transmit the DVB-H mobile TV signal in densely populated areas, while EUTELSAT and SES Astra are launching a new satellite that will cover most of Europe with a mobile TV signal in less populated areas. You can watch a video Interview I did with an Alcatel-Lucent representative about the DVB-SH technology at http://techvideoblog.com/ifa/alcatel-lucent-dvb-sh/

As we are still waiting for the following promised features in firmware upgrades:

- HD 720p video codecs support through the HD plugin

- HSDPA USB dongle support on USB host of Battery, Mini Dock or DVR Station

- DVB-T Tuner Dock

- FM Remote Control

- Full in-car GPS Dock support

- USB1 and USB2 keyboard and mouse support with USB hub

So you can hopefully look forward to all these awesome promised features being added in the coming weeks and months to the current Archos 5 and Archos 7 series.

Sources: http://techradar.com/news/internet/arch ... -tv-513262

http://archoslounge.net/Archos-une-nouv ... ,8710.html (french)

I posted this story at http://archosfans.com/2009/01/23/dvb-sh ... -released/


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:46 pm 
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1. Will this new dock work with the Archos 5?
2. Will DVB-SH be available in Ireland and the UK?

Great news about the promised features possibly being added in the coming weeks and months. ;)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:51 pm 
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Interesting quote on the techradar story:

"Via an accessory and a software plug in (purchased separately), the latest range, which includes the Archos 5, 7 and new Archos 10 Mini-laptop, will be compatible with the service."

I have highlighted the interesting bit... So you buy the snap-on and then buy a plug-in to get it to actually work for more money? Hmmm...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:55 pm 
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Yup it will work with the Archos 5 and Archos 7 according to the press release.

I think it might still be under considerations by the different European governments. But as far as I know, it's pretty much confirmed that all of the European countries will support DVB-H, and when they launch DVB-H, it basically does mean that they are being DVB-SH compatible as well. Since DVB-SH covers the whole of Europe with one satellite.

You will only be able to receive the channels from the satellite if you have a direct line of sight to the satellite. That's why they will use DVB-H signals for when you are inside of lage buildings for example when you are in densely populated city centers.

I believe that the DVB-SH standard can cover hundreds of channels at 256kbit/s each.

I prefer HSDPA, WiFi, Mobile WiMax, 700mhz Internet on White Spaces and all that. But also having some mobile TV channels, why not. DVB-SH is meant to be more reliable for mobile use than the DVB-T standard. Although the DVB-T signals are of higher quality at full DVD resolution Mpeg2 or Mpeg4, it's also even in HD resolution. Archos does master the mobile DVB-T reception better than anyone else. So the release of the DVB-T Dock is going to be very cool as well.

The DVB-SH reception antenna is going to be much smaller than the DVB-T Snap-On Dock obviously.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:35 pm 
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I have no interest in this functionality, but the press release was interesting to me nonetheless. This seems to indicate that the Archos 5 will be receiving updates and new features to the end of 2009 at least.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:39 pm 
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Charbax wrote:
Archos does master the mobile DVB-T reception better than anyone else.


You lost me on this one. How exactly does Archos master DVB-T reception? I didn't realize they had any DVB-T products released.


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kawiultraman wrote:
Charbax wrote:
Archos does master the mobile DVB-T reception better than anyone else.


You lost me on this one. How exactly does Archos master DVB-T reception? I didn't realize they had any DVB-T products released.


Archos has released PMPs with portable DVB-T technology since 2006. Archos masters it in a way you will find in no other portable DVB-T products. Archos uses a dual-tuner optimization technology which makes it work while moving around and inside the car as well. DVB-T wasn't designed to be used for portable devices. The single antenna DVB-T USB tuners for laptops and other portable single tuner DVB-T players have got nothing to do with the way Archos does it. You are much more likely to have a good signal on the Archos while moving around then with any other mobile DVB-T devices out there.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:52 pm 
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Charbax wrote:
kawiultraman wrote:
Charbax wrote:
Archos does master the mobile DVB-T reception better than anyone else.


You lost me on this one. How exactly does Archos master DVB-T reception? I didn't realize they had any DVB-T products released.


Archos has released PMPs with portable DVB-T technology since 2006. Archos masters it in a way you will find in no other portable DVB-T products. Archos uses a dual-tuner optimization technology which makes it work while moving around and inside the car as well.


This one?

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/arch ... or-france/


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:56 pm 
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kawiultraman wrote:
Charbax wrote:
Archos has released PMPs with portable DVB-T technology since 2006. Archos masters it in a way you will find in no other portable DVB-T products. Archos uses a dual-tuner optimization technology which makes it work while moving around and inside the car as well.


Can you provide a link to one of these? I've never seen one and I've been hanging around here since '06.


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http://archosfans.com/2007/05/31/archos ... -released/


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:58 pm 
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Ah, was this ever released outside of France?

This article seems to imply it was for France only.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/arch ... or-france/


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:04 pm 
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Sold all over Europe I think. Pre-installed as well for the backseat in certain cars as an optional accessory.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:31 pm 
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Certainly not in the USA. I wish Archos would provide something in the way of TV for USA customers. The ability for Hulu to work (Flash) would be the next best thing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:05 am 
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yep it was released here as the av700tv, i didnt know it was dvb-t though i thought it was analogue, there you go you learn something new everyday!!!
Now archos HURRY UP and release this fantastic add on, i will be the first in the que, this sounds like a much much better option than the dvb-t dock that has fallen back on the release date, i just hope they are not that expensive. and again HURRY PLEASE - and dont let this one vanish as well!!!!

so charbax - what i understand is it will use a mixture of sat and hspda to recieve signals, i take it this is gona be a free broadcast with no dataplan etc??, its getting so confusing now i now struggle to keep up with all the new technologys lol.
good news though, this should help sell some more players, three standards in one little tiny player, dvb-sh, dvb-s and dvb-h, at least one of those should work for our friends accross the pond,
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:08 am 
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I did a video with the DVB-T people you can check it out: http://techvideoblog.com/ifa/alcatel-lucent-dvb-sh/

There is going to be a satellite covering Europe with 90 or so DVB-SH TV channels and another one has been sent up already to cover the USA: http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/15/ico- ... o-america/

Trials in USA are going on with Dish Networks, a partner of Archos and trials in Europe are underway among others by SFR in France which is also an Archos partner.


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well when and if they do finally release this excellent addon i think archos will see the brand take off, i know loads of people that love the 5 but atm its just not enough to switch them from the ipod, this may just tip the balance..... i hope so...
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Is this a service to subscribe to is or is it free to view?


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