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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:05 am 
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So we all love our Gen8 tablets, they perform pretty awesomely, Froyo is already great for the tablet. The hardware teams at Archos are probably already working on their next product series. Let's discuss what Archos should do next. Here's what I think:

1Q2011: Home Tablet v2, Rockchip RK2818 1Ghz Froyo, maybe Rockchip RK29 already:
- A50HT2 $99
- A70HT2 $149
- A101HT2 $199

1Q2011: Vision v2, Rockchip media players:
- A35V 8GB $99
- A50V 250GB $129
- A50V 500GB $149

1Q2011: Gen9, OMAP4430 1Ghz Dual-core based:
Android:
- Archos 35 Internet Tablet $149, 3.5" capacitive, MicroSD
- Archos 50 Internet Tablet $199, 5" capacitive, 3G/4G built-in option for +$100
Google TV:
- Archos TV $149, Google TV on ARM, 1080p@30fps, HDMI throughput and IR blaster optional for +$50
Chrome OS:
- Archos 101 Laptop $149, 10.1" screen, Chrome OS for ARM, 3G/4G modem snap-in
- Archos 121 Laptop $199, 12.1" 800p screen, Chrome OS for ARM, 3G/4G modem snap-in

3Q2011: Gen10, OMAP4440 1.5Ghz Dual-core based:
Android:
- A35IT2 $99
- A50IT2 $149
- A70IT2 $199, Pixel Qi screen, 50h battery or lighter and thinner 200gr design, e-reader mode
- A101IT2 $249, Pixel Qi screen, 50h battery or lighter and thinner 300gr design, e-reader mode
Google TV:
- ATV2 $99, 1080p@60fps/3DHD
Chrome OS:
- A101L2 $149, Pixel Qi
- A121L2 $199, Pixel Qi

1Q2012: Gen11, OMAP4XXX 2Ghz Quad-core based:
Android:
- A35IT3 $69, Pixel Qi
- A50IT3 $119, Pixel Qi
- A70IT3 $149, Pixel Qi
- A101IT3 $169, Pixel Qi
Google TV:
- ATV3 $69, Quad-HD
Chrome OS:
- A101L3 $99, Pixel Qi
- A121L3 $149, Pixel Qi

3Q2012: Gen12, OMAP5XXX ARM Cortex-A15 2Ghz Quad-core based:
Android:
- A35IT4 $49, Pixel Qi
- A50IT4 $99, Pixel Qi
- A70IT4 $119, Pixel Qi
- A101IT4 $149, Pixel Qi
Google TV:
- ATV4 $69, Quad-HD
Chrome OS:
- A101L4 $99, Pixel Qi
- A121L4 $149, Pixel Qi

Some details:

Archos TV becomes the new generation DVR Station for all Archos tablets, super fast USB3 host ports on Archos TV automatically synchronize files with the tablets.

Archos TV should have empty 3.5" hard drive compartment to insert any 3.5" hard drive for storage of DVR recordings, NAS files, BitTorrent auto-downloads and more. More 3.5" hard drives should connect externally through USB host.

Archos Laptops should have empty modem compartment, possibly using internal USB host, but perhaps another type of modem module can be designed. This way all types of modems can be added, be them 3G, 4G or White Spaces.

Archos Laptops could possibly have empty 2.5" hard drive compartment as well. Thus any 2.5" hard drive could be added and possibly a switch to hot swap connect the hard drive and only use power for it when files need to be accessed.

A full sized USB host port should be on all Archos tablets from 5" and up.

Pending availability, the 5" should also use a Pixel Qi LCD capacitive touch screen.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:03 am 
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why dual core OMAP ARMs and not Tegra?
If using Pixel Qi screen and 1 GB Ram, I'd be very interested with this year A70 version :)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:40 pm 
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A 101, but with real power and a real screen this time.

3G would be nice too.

I don't care if the price ends up being 2x more.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:14 pm 
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why not phones basing on the 32it and 43it?
but both with capacitive touchscreen and 512MB ram.
the 32 phone should have hardwarebuttons and the crappy camera should be removed.
rest of the hardware could stay the same.

i like the idea of an 5" tablet.

another nice thing would be some kind of 4" gamer tablet similar to the xperia play.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:34 pm 
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I really like my A70 as is.

I would love to see the following improvements in the next iteration:
- Higher screen res (at least 1024x600)
- 512MB RAM
- Dual-core processor if possible and it doesn't affect battery life, otherwise stick with single core
- Built-in GPS


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:51 am 
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Basically i want the Gen9 7" device(s) to have specs similar to eLocity A7 but with capacitive screen and honeycomb or ice cream sandwich.

Better yet, if the specs can match the upcoming toshiba tablet but with 7" form factor I'll be a happy man:

Full USB 2.0 host capability
mini USB 2.0 host capability
SD-CARD, not microSD, SD-CARD!
HDMI!
Replaceable batteries!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:34 am 
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Fix quality issues.
Build stuff that doesn't feel like cheap,plasticky junk.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:03 pm 
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Could any of these suggestions be real?
has archos released any official report for future improvements to current devices or new models for 2011?
that would be a good move for the fans.New expectaions..


I'll post my own suggeetion later.I am tired writting from my A32:)


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:44 pm 
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i read that they want to announce the gen9 devices on the IFA later this year.
according to tabletblog.de archos aims at similar prizes as gen8 has/had and hardware similar to those tegra2 tabs.

I think specs could be something like this:
Cortex A9 dualcore 1GHz (no tegra2 tough, maybe TI)
1 GB of Ram
4-16 GB of internal storage
capacitive touchscreen for 10", 7" and 5" (resolutions from 1024x600 to 1280x720)
resistive touchscreen for 3.8" and 3.2" (resolutions from 480x320 to 800x480)
Android 2.3 with possible update to 3.0


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:05 pm 
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-Official XBMC port as the main media application. Just find the guys who ported XBMC to iOS and give them a job.
-Sigma devices are working on a XBMC port for their future chips, so Archos could release a set-top box with XBMC also. This would help consolidate the product line-up, and remind people what Archos used to be about - MEDIA and not crappy Android tablets
-Wide angle displays
-Full 1080p playback
-User-accesible 1.8" hard-drive bay in every model.
-Forget this brown plastic crap and go back to brushed metal. Remember the AV500? Now THAT was a nice device, reminds me of a Sony product. All recent Archos products have been very cheap and crappy looking.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:57 pm 
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+1 to zenstrive and raminator for their ideas..

now..about the device:
-4'' inch capacitive/gorilla
-dual core processor(probably the brand new and fantastic Tegra 2)
-The best OS (aka Android)
-HD playback
-HD camera
-Speaker
-Better wifi signal than A32
- 3G for mobile internet
-SD card / bigger internal memory
-wifi Direct capable
-(mini) HDMI
-1GB ram
-bluetooth
-Build-in GPS
-Better baterry life than the current devices of this size


I imagine a portable all-in-one device.Recently i bought A32.For my needs is a very good device (a better and better screen maybe would be better).I am so excited with how comfortable and mobile this device is.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:09 pm 
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Engadget just posted news that Archos will announce new high end 7" and 10" tablets at the IFA being held in Germany
between September 2-7 thus year. Archos Still haven't settled on exact hardware that will be used but that tablets will
definitely .be high end.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:28 am 
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By IFA time Nvidia should have Kal-El out, their Tegra 3 package. If it's priced similar to this gen that would be great, but I think it would be toss up against the PSP2 if that's cheap enough. At least within the 5" zone.

But really...IFA? September? I'm going to bite my nails off waiting.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:23 am 
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i am pretty low-maintenance, all i would need in the next version of an archos 101 IT would be that it would be:
1. quad-core
2. 4GB RAM (with a removable cover that lets you upgrade the RAM)
3. 1080-HD display
4. the option to either use android 3.0 or windows 7
5. a 12" display
6. give it a rear-facing camera
7. a 10-hour battery life


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I would suggest that the primary concern is to have Gen9/10 fully working out of the box unlike previous versions! :doubt:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:35 am 
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Gen 9 sizes: 3.2" , 5", 7", 10"

Processor: Dual core processor with high end graphics processing. (One of the biggest problems is the lack of future-proof graphics chips. They seem to be outdated very fast).

RAM: 512MB-1024MB RAM.

Capacity: 16GB, 32GB, 160GB.

Screen type: All Capacitive Multitouch.

Casing type: Light but high quality material.

OS: Android 3.0 Honeycomb (As smooth as possible)

Extras: HDMI out, USB Host (5"-10" models), Audio out, Microphone, Optional 3G support, SD Card, Micro-USB, Kickstand (3 lockable positions: Closed, 1/2 Open, 3/4 Open),
Front and back facing cameras (1-3MP), Optional keyboard attachment (Device slots into casing with keyboard).

Other: The device would want to be kept as thin as possible. As was mentioned before the graphics chip would have to be very high end. Screen glare is a problem so limit it as much as possible. The devices would want to look visually appealing so no block type shaping and smoother looking. Also keep the colours looking nice (I think Gen8 did an excellent job at this :D ).


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:31 am 
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djfluffwug wrote:
Gen 9 sizes: 3.2" , 5", 7", 10"

Processor: Dual core processor with high end graphics processing. (One of the biggest problems is the lack of future-proof graphics chips. They seem to be outdated very fast).

RAM: 512MB-1024MB RAM.

Capacity: 16GB, 32GB, 160GB.

Screen type: All Capacitive Multitouch.

Casing type: Light but high quality material.

OS: Android 3.0 Honeycomb (As smooth as possible)

Extras: HDMI out, USB Host (5"-10" models), Audio out, Microphone, Optional 3G support, SD Card, Micro-USB, Kickstand (3 lockable positions: Closed, 1/2 Open, 3/4 Open),
Front and back facing cameras (1-3MP), Optional keyboard attachment (Device slots into casing with keyboard).

Other: The device would want to be kept as thin as possible. As was mentioned before the graphics chip would have to be very high end. Screen glare is a problem so limit it as much as possible. The devices would want to look visually appealing so no block type shaping and smoother looking. Also keep the colours looking nice (I think Gen8 did an excellent job at this :D ).


brilliant idea.Come on archos!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:24 pm 
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Archos Gen9 tablets, 1.6Ghz Dual-core, 3G, to be announced in June

Archos just announced that their revenues are up 44% for 2010 sales compared to 2009 sales, to $118 Million in yearly sales. They also managed to increase their profit margins from 13.5% to 23.3%. In terms of actual profits after R&D, Marketing and other expenses, Archos is about break-even. Archos plans to more than double its revenues and profits in 2011, grabbing about 5% of the worldwide tablet market share expected in 2011 could take care of that (they captured 22% market share in France for November-December 2010, behind iPad 67% but infront of Samsung 4%, so it should be doable even as tablet competition strongly increases). They plan to do that among other by launching Generation 9 in June (at least show it for the first time), that's only 3 months from now!

Here are the first few details as reported by bestofmicro.com from what they heard at Archos investors meeting today about the Gen9 tablets (and with my added speculations and guessing):

- ARM Cortex-A9 Dual-core 1.6Ghz, it's the fastest processor in a tablet ever unveiled thus far. I expect this to be a customized Texas Instruments OMAP4440, but that is only because I guess Archos will continue their long time partnership with TI that they've had for over 10 years now.

- New innovative 3G modem. Yup, we're getting 3G (at least as an option). What kind of 3G? How they implement it? I dunno, it seems they have a new special way of doing it? I hope they do it with some kind of modem module that can be added or swaped, thus making the tablet compatible with all types of cellular networks current and future and making production and distribution easy, anyone think it could be a module? Somehow allowing for space for a standard USB 3G modem on an "internal" USB host could also be a very innovative way to simply add 3G to the devices, the back of the device could "simply" have some space available to insert any standard compact 3G modem such as the Huawei or ZTE 3G usb dongles that anyone can buy everywhere for as little as $20 unlocked.

- 6 sizes from 5" to 10". That's the sizes it seems they are aiming at. It might mean Archos noticed their 7" and 10" Gen8 were much more popular and in demand than the smaller sizes, and it might mean Archos is realizing a tablet has to be at least 5", perhaps they leave the smaller sizes to the Arnova line? I expect/hope all are capacitive, even the 5" one. I also hope Archos and Pixel Qi can synchronize release schedules so Archos can provide Pixel Qi matte capacitive screen option on all these sizes, at least as an option. Would you pay $50/$100 extra for Pixel Qi if Pixel Qi is not yet fully mass produced? One can hope Pixel Qi is fully mass produced in time, and that somehow Archos sees the opportunity in using it accross the line, thus making Gen9 ready for productivity, ready for real reading, ready for outdoor use, ready for use in professional and study situations, ready for serious collaboration on text annotations, ready to be Kindle-killer and iPad-killer all at the same time.

- All are Android, obviously it has to be Honeycomb (source code for Honeycomb has yet to be released in the open by Google, it should be done any day now), can Google finally open up Android and allow value Archos tablets the full Google Marketplace access? I would expect so, that could hopefully allow Archos to be certified. (this is totally up to Google is my guess)

- Archos says they will focus on aiming for the medium range pricing. My guess is it likely stays below $300, but if they do 3G, Pixel Qi and if they are first out with OMAP4440, who knows, perhaps the price might sneak up to something below $400. Archos CEO is planning all this based on offering the best possible value they can, my guess is that they aim to stay below $300 for the basic models.

Well that's all they have teased for us for now. What other features are you hoping Archos is preparing for us in the Gen9 tablets? write in the comments. You can also comment in the forum: http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=43708&p=337531#p337531

Source: http://www.boursier.com/actualites/economie/l-annee-2011-demarre-sous-de-bons-auspices-pour-archos-7449.html, http://www.bestofmicro.com/actualite/28876-Tablette-Android.html


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:50 am 
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Okay for an idea on 3g modems I would look at Novatel. Novatel recently bought Enfora, the maker of the compactflash size cellular modem and embedded network solutions. what I think would/ could happen is that Archos uses Novatel's Broadband Embedded 3g Module for 3g. it is a modem built on a PCI Express mini card like this

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also, for future proofing I would also look at Toradex and their SoC on a SO-DIMM card. since it uses a SO-DIMM memory slot it is up/down-gradeable as you prefer

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As for other things I like to see. improve the media software. have it work better with windows. have an internal micro sd card slot, memory cards are getting cheaper. a buyer can get one with a 4 gig card and upgrade at their own expense to a 16, 32 or higher. support for sdxc


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:12 am 
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They must make a smaller, more portable device.


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